2023 Wethepeople Envy: Do You Need This Much Quality?

The 2023 Wethepeople Envy is one of the highest quality BMX bikes that money can buy. Wethepeople has incredible attention to detail and you will be blown away by how smooth this bike feels. Made from aftermarket frame, forks, and bars, the Envy is a capable park machine. It will cost you over $1300, and weigh about 24.38 lbs. If you want a serious bike, you can't go wrong with the Envy.

Let's find out if the Envy is the right bike for you...

Everything in 30 Seconds

✅ - Aftermarket Chromoly Frame ($299)

✅ - Aftermarket Chromoly Forks/Bars 

✅ - Available in LHD or RHD

✅ - Multiple Sizes (20.5" or 21" XL)

✅ - Full Eclat/WTP Parts Package

❌ - $1299 - VERY Expensive

❌ - No Pegs

How it Works

To help you decide if this is the right bike for you, we will break it down into 3 easy to follow sections. 

First, we will look at the geometry of the bike to decide how tall you need to be to comfortably shred it. Your riding style, height, and athletic background will play a role here. 

Next, we will break down the quality of the bike to decide if this bike is too little, too much, or just enough quality for you. Your budget, weight, and skill level will be taken into consideration. 

Finally, we will talk about the utility of this bike because certain bikes are better for certain types of riding. Do you plan to ride skateparks? Dirt jumps? Cruise street sports? After looking at the parts package, geometry, and branding of the bike, you will know what type of riding the bike is for. 

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Step 1: Sizing

The Envy is available in a 20.5" toptube and a 21" toptube to suit a wide range of riders. The chainstay is incredibly short at 12.75" on center which will make the back end feel snappy and responsive. Combine that with the 75.5º headtube angle and you have a responsive park machine. 

For the average person, the 20.5" Wethepeople Envy will be a perfect fit for you if you are between 5' 6" and 5'9". The 21" option will fit anyone who is over 6'.

Style Consideration

If you want to achieve a certain type of "style" on your bike you might want to tweak the toptube size. Since riding a taller/small frame will change how you maneuver it, I've updated the sizing recommendation based on the style you might want to achieve.

For a technical style: Get the 20.5" if you are between 5'9" and 6'.

For a flowy style: Get the 20.5" if you are 5'3" to 5'6" and the 21" if you are 5'9" to 6'

Riding Background

Some people are coming to BMX from an MTB or MX background. If that is the case for you, you will want a BMX bike that fits a little big.

If you have an MTB or MX background: Get the 20.5" WTP Envy if you are between 5' 3" and 5' 6".

Wethepeople Envy 20.5" Sizing

❌ - Under 5': The WTP Envy will NOT fit you.

✅ - 5' 3" to 5' 6": The WTP Envy will fit if you are used to riding bigger bikes (MTB/MX) or you want to have flowy style with your riding.

✅ - 5' 6" to 5' 9": The Envy is the perfect size for you.

✅ - 5' 9" to 6': The Wethepeople Envy will fit you if you want to have a technical style.

❌ - Over 6': The Envy will NOT fit you.

Wethepeople Envy 21" Sizing

❌ - Under 5': The 21" WTP Envy will NOT fit you.

❌ - 5' 3" to 5' 6": The 21" WTP Envy will NOT fit you. 

❌ - 5' 6" to 5' 9": The 21" WTP Envy will NOT fit you. 

✅ - 5' 9" to 6': The Envy will fit you if you want to have a mellow style.

✅ - Over 6': The WTP Envy will fit you perfectly

Wethepeople Envy Geometry

A: Toptube Length:  20.5″, 21″

B: Chainstay Length: 12.75” (on center)

C: Head Tube Angle: 75.5°

D: Seattube Angle: 71°

E: Bottom Bracket Height: 11.7″

F: Standover height: 8.75″

As I mentioned before, the geometry is a snappy one. The 12.75 chainstay plus the 75.5º headtube angle shorten the wheelbase. This gives the bike a higher center of gravity and makes it respond faster to turns and spins. The 11.7" BB height is higher than average which also gives the Envy a more responsive feeling.

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Step 2: Quality

The Envy is a very high-quality bike. It's one of the few bikes to score over a 9 in the quality section. Because of the massive amounts of aftermarket parts, this bike will cost a pretty penny. Expect to spend over $1200 on the WTP Envy, but also expect it to last a long time. With quality this high, there is not a particular weight limit for this bike. No matter how much you weigh, the parts will hold up as you ride it. This bike is classified as a "pro-level" bike. 

Wethepeople Envy Weight Limit

Sometimes weight is overlooked when buying a BMX bike. I was always close to the 200lb mark and I broke my fair share of bikes. The general recommendation is that if you are a heavier rider, you should go with an 8+ quality. If you are light, you can get away with any quality (for the most part) but you run into toptube size restrictions. 

The Envy is the bike that I recommend for riders who are over 200 lbs and want something that will last them a long time. Almost all of the parts on this bike are aftermarket and build to withstand pro-level riding. The WTP Envy is good for any weight and does not have a weight limit. 

✅ - Under 130 lbs - You will not have any issues with the Envy

✅ - 130 lbs to 150 lbs - You will not have any issues with the Envy

✅ - 150 lbs to 170 lbs - You will not have any issues with the Envy

✅ - 170 lbs - 200 lbs - The Envy is strong enough for your weight

✅ - 200 lbs - 250 lbs - The Envy is strong enough for your weight

✅ - Over 250 lbs - The Envy is strong enough for your weight

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Your Skill

My main concern here is to make sure that the bike you get can withstand your level of riding. The sad reality is that a pro-level rider can not ride a beginner-level bike for a long period of time and expect it to last. So if you are a pro-level rider.. you might need this bike.

The Envy might be overkill for most riders who are researching this bike. It's like getting a Ferrari as your first car. Sure it will get you anywhere, but do you really need that kind of power? The bike is a pro-level bike so it's best for mid/high-level riders who plan to progress to that level eventually.

For a complete beginner under 200 lbs, you can get away with a much cheaper bike and you do not need the Envy.

Main Component Quality

A bike's main components are the parts that hold everything together. These are generally the most expensive replacements and include the frame, forks, bars, and cranks. Having strong main components will save you money in the long run since it is less likely that they will need to be replaced later on in your BMX journey. 

✅ - Frame - The Envy has a full chromoly, aftermarket frame equipped with Wethepeople's lifetime guarantee.

✅ - Forks - The forks are also full chromoly, aftermarket forks equipped with Wethepeoeple's lifetime guarantee.

✅ - Bars - This bike has aftermarket full chromoly WTP XLT bars. These bars are Sanko chromoly with liquid heat-treated processing.

✅ - Cranks - The Envy has 2.5 pc aftermarket cranks. These cranks are 48 spline so they are lighter and stronger than the 8 spline alternative.

Parts Package

A bike's part package makes up the rest of the bike. What rims, hubs and tires does it come with? What stem is it rocking? The part package can really set a bike aside from the competition. Some companies go cheap and some pour it all on here. Generally, upgrades in this area are less expensive and therefore less important than the main components.

Parts Package Pros

  • LHD and RHD hub options
  • Full aftermarket parts
  • High psi 2.45" wide eclat tires
  • Female front Eclat hub

Parts Package Cons

  • Honestly, none

Aftermarket Parts

These are only a few of the aftermarket parts on this bike. Pretty much the whole thing is aftermarket meaning the parts are stronger and can be purchased separately as upgrades.

✅ - Eclat Contra Pedals

✅ - Eclat Siesmic Hubs

✅ - Eclat Mirage Tires

Step #3: Utility

Some people get into BMX to ride one thing. If you're like me, you want to ride a little of everything. Either way, the last step of checking if this is the right bike, is the utility. Each bike is a little different in the way they are designed, built, and marketed. Some bikes are better for certain types of riding than others. What type of riding do you plan to do?

Keep in mind that this section is the least important since you are always able to purchase upgrades and make the bike better for your desired type of riding.

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Wethepeople Envy Utility

The Wethepeoeple Envy is best for riding skateparks. It has a snappy and responsive geometry that makes technical tricks feel good. It's mostly marketed as a street bike, but without pegs, I just think that's silly. Right out of the box it's best for riding skateparks.

The Wethepeoeple Envy scored a 9.23 in park, putting it close to the top of 2023 park-specific bikes. Not many bikes will be better for riding park.

✅ - Street - Right out of the box, the Envy is not street specific. But it still scores high in the street section. If you want to ride street with the Envy just buy some pegs and you will be good.

✅ - Park - The Envy is perfect for riding street. The only upgrade I can think of would be a gyro brake system.

⚠️ - Dirt - Dirt riding is the lowest scoring section for the WTP Envy. In my experience, the geometry is simply too responsive to comfortably ride dirt on. If you want to ride dirt with a technical style, this will be ok. 

If you are just buying this bike to commute or cruise on, ignore everything I just said. The bike is fine for cruising.

Where to Buy it?

I've heard so many horror stories of people buying their brand new bike and realizing later that they bought it from a shady bike shop. There are a few out there so be careful.

If you've decided that the Wethepeople Envy is indeed the right bike for you, click this link to see which trusted shop has it in stock at the best price. 

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Frequently Asked Questions

How much does the Wethepeople Envy weigh?

The WTP Envy is a light BMX bike, weighing only24.02 lbs with the included hubguards.

Does the WTP Envy come with brakes?

Yes, brakes will be included with your envy. Everything is removable if you desire a cleaner look but do so at your own risk.

How do I assemble my Wethepeople Envy?

If you purchase your Envy from Dan's Comp, it will come partially assembled and you can follow their assembly video to finish it yourself. If you lack mechanical ability, take it to a local bike shop.

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